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Yes-or-no questions in the X-不-X pattern
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Affirmative-negative_question

There's also 有没有 but let's do that tomorrow. (I find these forms adorable for some reason. Who knows.)

Guardian:
带我回家好不好?(Grandma giving Xiao Guo orders)
林静,要不要去吃点东西 (Da Qing with a grasp of the priorities)
到底要不要告诉他,如果告诉他会不会让他陷入危险。(Two for the price of one: Shen Wei being indecisive for once)

My practice:
你去不去邮局?快要关门啊。
你看看,他帅不帅?
这个面包是不是你烤的?

Date: 2022-02-28 11:22 pm (UTC)
laireshi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] laireshi
I like this one! I learnt it from dramas before I got to it in any formal setting.

Date: 2022-03-01 05:54 am (UTC)
scytale: (Default)
From: [personal profile] scytale

这个面包是不是你烤的?


不是我烤的,我烤的面包都像石头一样。 :(

今天累不累?

Date: 2022-03-01 07:30 am (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
I like this pattern! But I'm still very confused with how to use it with two-character verbs. Sometimes it seems like you use just the first part, and sometimes it seems like it's the whole verb that gets repeated.

你能不能去我的派对?
今天是不是你的生日?(是,今天真得是我的生日)

Date: 2022-03-01 08:20 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (Default)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing

Sometimes it seems like you use just the first part, and sometimes it seems like it's the whole verb that gets repeated.

Both work, but repeating the first character only feels more natural to me!

(also, that should be 真的是 instead!)

Date: 2022-03-01 08:23 am (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
Dang it, wasn't paying attention to my de's again!

Date: 2022-03-01 08:37 am (UTC)
grayswandir: Zhao Yunlan, pensive, lying face-up on a bed. (Guardian: Zhao Yunlan)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
Sometimes it seems like you use just the first part, and sometimes it seems like it's the whole verb that gets repeated.

I'm glad you asked about this, because I didn't know you could repeat both characters! I feel like I always hear it with just the first one repeated.

Date: 2022-03-01 11:23 pm (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
Again, I may be entirely wrong, but I feel like I have heard it that way on occasion. *shrugs*

Date: 2022-03-02 02:54 am (UTC)
grayswandir: Shen Wei looking at Zhao Yunlan. (Guardian: Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
From what I saw when I was trying to look it up (before [personal profile] presumenothing commented), I assume people do sometimes use both!

(Belated happy birthday! :)

Date: 2022-03-03 06:10 am (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
Belated happy birthday!
谢谢!

Date: 2022-03-01 11:25 pm (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
对,昨天是了我的生日!二月二十八号,since there are time zones and yesterday vs today don't always work well, haha! 谢谢啊!

Date: 2022-03-01 11:46 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan - be happy)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
生日快乐, belatedly! :D

(I'm pretty sure you can't say 是了 like that?)

Date: 2022-03-02 12:39 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (tmea)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing

Yup, you're right – it's just 昨天是我的生日, or 昨天就是~ for extra emphasis.

(not to say that 是 and 了 don't occur together at all because they sometimes do, it's just not correct here, 别问我为什么)

Date: 2022-03-02 08:47 am (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei - don't know)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
Thanks muchly! ♥

别问我为什么

I need an icon with that, LOL.

Date: 2022-03-03 06:09 am (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
谢谢!

I gotta remember that, 别问我为什么.

Date: 2022-03-02 12:46 am (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
You're probably right. Using 昨天 is past tense enough, right?

And thank you!

Date: 2022-03-02 08:48 am (UTC)
trobadora: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
Using 昨天 is past tense enough, right?

Yeah, the way I understand it that's all you need.

Date: 2022-03-01 08:06 am (UTC)
sakana17: lan xinjie smiling (rebel-lan-xinjie)
From: [personal profile] sakana17
Another Lan Xinjie line from The Rebel, episode 7:
你会不会想这个人到底是怎么想的

Date: 2022-03-02 05:40 am (UTC)
sakana17: lin nansheng tired and holding a pencil (rebel-lin-nansheng-pencil)
From: [personal profile] sakana17
iQiyi's English subtitles have it as:
"You won't think that I'm being rude right now, right?"

The 会不会 seemed odd to me, too, but I can sort of understand, I think...

Date: 2022-03-02 08:39 am (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei - don't know)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
I think it's similar to the habitual 会 we talked about the other day?

Date: 2022-03-01 08:54 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (monki)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing

Tossing in a transcription of this hilarious bit from a Zhou Shen interview that I still haven't gotten around to giffing (the question he's answering starts around 13:50). Punctuation added to break up his usual 2x speedtalking:

“清华好不好?” 我就情不自禁:“好!!” 那要不当然,当然好啊!
“还考不考清华?” “考!!!” 我倒是想考,我考不上了,哈哈哈……

Context: 清华 aka 清华大学/Tsinghua University is a Very Very Big Name Uni, to put it mildly, and one of his (many) CNY performances was with their alumni choir, whom he took a photo with after the show… hence the interviewer asking "so did it feel like walking into a room of senior citizen 学霸 aka straight-A++++ students" LOL

(And yes I realise this doesn't actually explain what he's saying………… I'll drop a link to the gifset here when I make it haha. In the meantime 看你们明不明白吧 :P)

Date: 2022-03-02 12:33 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (tv)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing

Right!? 说实话 he could narrate the phonebook for three hours and I would probably still be entertained…

Date: 2022-03-03 12:05 am (UTC)
elenothar: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elenothar
(I find these forms adorable for some reason. Who knows.)

Oh yay, I'm not the only one! They always make me smile.

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