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Hello, 你还好吗!Thank you for coming to take a look at guardian_learning, which is a community for shared Chinese language practice.

What we do and how it works:
I post once a day with a grammar point from the HSK/Chinese Grammar Wiki list and a beginner HSK vocabulary word, along with some sample sentences from Guardian (see below) and some practice of my own.
Anyone who would also like to practice writing is invited to come by and add a comment at any time, using the grammar point of the day and/or the vocabulary word of the day, or not as preferred (basically anything related to writing in Chinese is fine!). You can also post separately to the community any time you want to raise Chinese-language-related questions, thoughts, or discussion points.

Is knowledge of Guardian a requirement for taking part?
No, not at all! This community started as the idea of using the Chinese drama Guardian (镇魂) to study Chinese. Its purpose is no longer focused on the drama (although I still use the Guardian script for sample sentences for my own amusement), so being involved here is possible and encouraged whether or not you’re interested in Guardian in particular or cdramas in general.

What level is it for?
Please feel free to comment and/or make your own posts without hesitation, regardless of what level you are at. Beginning-level sentences and questions are excellent review/practice for everybody and often bring up really interesting points and references (and even if they didn’t, so what; if they’re useful for the person writing them, that’s good enough for this community). That said, if you are not comfortable commenting, or would rather post quotations rather than practice sentences, or would rather stick to 第七天 days, any and all ways to interact/follow along are fine. No stress.

So what’s a 第七天 day?
Once a week we review the grammar and vocabulary from the week instead of adding anything new; this review day is also a chance to share songs, sayings, study tools and other Chinese-related stuff we like.

Other general notes
・There are basically only two rules as far as I’m concerned: a) have some interest in Chinese study in some format, and b) treat other people cordially. So far we’re doing just fine on both counts.
・“Chinese” here generally refers to Mandarin/普通话, but we have a few people with interest/experience in Cantonese, Hokkien etc., and if people want to talk in/about other Chinese dialects etc. etc. please feel free!
・The basic grammar points are covered in the tags; I will try to come up with a more accessible way to search for grammar and vocabulary points covered, but I’m not there yet. (The 一天一橘 tag is just me liking dumb puns; 句子 (sentence) and 橘子 (tangerine) are both juzi, although with different tones, so it's an orange a day.)
I am very far from advanced and I don't guarantee correctness in my own Chinese, so bear that in mind.

Links
I've assembled various useful links proposed by the community under the cut here, and will try to update this regularly as more come up. Let me know if anything doesn't work!
Masterlist of links )

加油吧!
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部首
手 part 34
措, to arrange; 掰, to break open; 揉, to rub pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
灯光, light; 电灯, electric light pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
我知道特调处有自己的保密措施, I know the SID has its own measures for confidentiality
那么好的灯光啊, what a lovely light

Me:
我给你揉一揉肩膀。
把电灯关了。
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部首
手 parts 28-33
捕, to catch; 损, to damage; 捡, to pick up; 换, to exchange; 捣, to disturb; 捧, to hold with both hands; 据, according to; 授, to teach; 掉, to fall; 掌, palm of the hand; 掏, to take out of a pocket; 掐, to pinch; 排, row/line; 掘, to dig; 探, to explore; 接, to receive; 控, to control; 推, to push
pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.7 Or words: 还是 vs 或者
3.8 的 vs 得 vs 地
3.9 Agains: 又 vs 再 vs 还
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
担保, to assure; 担任, to serve as; 担心, to worry; 承担, to bear; 负担, burden
单, single; 单纯, simple; 单调, monotonous; 单独, alone
淡, light (as in light color, etc.)
导游, (travel) guide; 导致, to cause; 引导, to guide
倒闭, to collapse; 倒车, to change trains/buses; 倒车, to reverse
得, have to; 得意, proud; 获得, get; 来得及, in time; 赢得, gain/win
pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

玩玩
Since we had the 掉 character this week, here are several versions of 掉了: the original Amit (A-Mei), Wu Qingfeng, Zhou Shen, and Jiang Dunhao.

三月了,时间这么快。这里都是水仙。大家过得怎么样?好好保重身体啊。
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部首
手 part 33
接, to receive; 控, to control; 推, to push pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.9 Agains: 又 vs 再 vs 还
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
得, have to; 得意, proud; 获得, get; 来得及, in time; 赢得, gain/win pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
是你在操控她, you're the one manipulating her
这个又是你的学生了, this is also one of your students
我得感谢赵云澜, I must thank Zhao Yunlan

Me:
我再也不接你的电话。
看小孩这么得意的脸。
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 When it comes to chinese grammar, I have always thanked the gods that gauding the rules are generally straight forward. But theres a thing that has come to my attention, and its what google calls 'reduplications'. From personal research, I have found the conclusion why this rule is making my head spin: It is a certificate fact that the complexity of grammitcal 'reduplication' is not found in the languages I speak, english and spanish. (https://wals.info/feature/27A#2/28.3/149.1)

In many cases, I've concluded that I need to first expand my knowledge of characters to actually get into the details of 'reduplication', but every once in a while, I get stumped in a  direct why is this meaning getting reduplicated? 

So just for fun: anyone has any reduplicates examples that they think aren't grasped after knowing the meaning of the characters?
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部首
手 part 32
排, row/line; 掘, to dig; 探, to explore pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
倒闭, to collapse; 倒车, to change trains/buses; 倒车, to reverse pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
我可是排了好久的队才排到的, I stood on line for a long time to get to the front
他们公司现在面临倒闭了, their company is currently facing collapse

Me:
狗狗喜欢挖掘。
你得在京桥倒车。
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部首
手 part 31
掌, palm of the hand; 掏, to take out of a pocket; 掐, to pinch pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.8 的 vs 得 vs 地
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
导游, (travel) guide; 导致, to cause; 引导, to guide pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
整个地星都在你的掌控之中, all of Dixing is under your control
我找你找得好辛苦, I've had a hard time finding you
应该是附近的山体滑坡引导地质变化, it must be that nearby landslides led to changed soil quality

Me:
别掐我,你是小孩儿吗。
他小心翼翼地碰。
你来这儿的时候我当给你导游。
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部首
手 part 30
据, according to; 授, to teach; 掉, to fall pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
淡, light (as in light color, etc.) (pinyin in tags)
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
我是一名生物教授, I'm a professor of biology
据说就是这个丛波所谓的爆料揭秘, apparently this is the scoop that Cong Bo had in mind
[no 淡]

Me:
该出现的所有表现掉了🎵
天黑了,我看不清楚浓淡。
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部首
手 part 29
换, to exchange; 捣, to disturb; 捧, to hold with both hands pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.7 Or words: 还是 vs 或者 hái huòzhě
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
单, single; 单纯, simple; 单调, monotonous; 单独, alone pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
在交换戒指之前,我准备了一份小惊喜, I've prepared a little surprise for you before we exchange rings
梦见哪个姑娘了,汪徵还是祝红了? which young lady were you dreaming about, Wang Zheng or Zhu Hong?
孤孤单单有什么不好, what's so bad about being all alone?

Me:
别捣乱了,你这个人呀。
答案其实很单纯。
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部首
手 part 28
捕, to catch; 损, to damage; 捡, to pick up pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
担保, to assure; 担任, to serve as; 担心, to worry; 承担, to bear; 负担, burden pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
这样可以减少损害, this way we can reduce the damage
你担任摄政官这么多年, you've held the Regent's position this long

Me:
是你丢掉了呢,你自己捡起来吧。
别担心,都会好了。
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部首
手 parts 22-27
按, to press; 挑, to choose; 挖, to dig; 挠, to scratch; 挡, to block; 挣, to struggle; 挤, to crowd in; 挥, to wave; 挨, in order; 挪, to move something; 挫, to fail; 振, to shake; 挺, quite; 捂, to cover; 捉, to grab; 捋, to stroke; 捏, to pinch; 捐, to donate
pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.5 (part 1) 才, "only when..."
3.5 (part 2) 才 meaning "only, just"
3.6 才 vs 就
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
打, to hit; 打败, to defeat; 打雷, to thunder; 打扫, to clean; 打折, discount; 打针, to inject
大巴, bus; 大多, mostly; 大方, generous; 大哥, big brother; 大规模, large-scale; 大会, general meeting; 大姐, big sister; 大楼, big building; 大陆, continent/mainland; 大妈, aunt/father's older brother's wife; 大型, large; 大爷, uncle/father's older brother; 大众, the public; 巨大, huge; 扩大, expand
代替, to replace; 近代, modern; 替代, substitute
待遇, treatment; 期待, to expect/look forward to
袋, bag; 口袋, pocket; 脑袋, head; 塑料袋, plastic bag
戴, to wear (glasses, a mask, etc.)
pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

玩玩
Don’t miss the auspicious sayings posted by sakana17 a few days ago! Also, 说爱你 (Jolin Tsai and GEM, a classic), 也值得 (Li Miaomiao), and 死性不改 (Kang Ziqi).

从昨天这里好暖和,梅花也绽放了。我昨天转化了大厨师,又做泰式咖喱又煮鸡汤,味道还行。大家过得怎么样?
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部首
手 part 27
捋, to stroke; 捏, to pinch; 捐, to donate pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.6 才 vs 就
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
戴, to wear (glasses, a mask, etc.) (pinyin in tags)
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
所以我就想着吧,这些书捐给龙城大学的图书馆, so I thought of donating these books to the DCU library
我检查过没事才睡的, I only went to sleep after I checked that everything was all right
我带伤这个面具,敌人就看不到我的表情了,他们以为我不会害怕, when I wear this mask the enemy can't see my expression, and they'll think I'm not afraid

Me:
别捏我的胳膊了,好疼啊。
她六点半就出门了。
我觉得他戴眼镜的时候最好看。
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部首
手 part 26
挺, quite; 捂, to cover; 捉, to grab pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
袋, bag; 口袋, pocket; 脑袋, head; 塑料袋, plastic bag pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
应该还挺安全的吧, it should be quite safe
媳妇,拿个袋, get me a bag, old lady

Me:
听他说的话,我只好捂脸了。
谢谢,不用塑料袋。
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部首
手 part 25 shǒu
挪, to move something; 挫, to fail; 振, to shake pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.5 (part 2) 才 meaning "only, just"
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
待遇, treatment; 期待, to expect/look forward to pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
现在学生也真是的,挂科重修这种小挫折都受不了, students these days just can't take little setbacks like failing and retaking a class
[no 才 of this kind that I can find]
仅仅因为她天生和别人不一样,就该受到不公平的待遇吗, just because she was born different from other people, should she be treated differently?

Me:
你帮我一下把东西挪下。
你真的练习了才两个月了吗?
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部首
手 part 24
挤, to crowd in; 挥, to wave; 挨, in order pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
代替, to replace; 近代, modern; 替代, substitute pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
人湖拥挤信号干扰, there are so many people it's crowding the signal and causing interference
现在唯一的办法就是找个人做在办公室里代替赵处, right now the only thing we can do is find someone to replace Chief Zhao in his office

Me:
成为指挥者比较难。
他那个人没有代替。
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新年快乐!马年大吉!

For Lunar New Year, some (mostly) auspicious sayings, courtesy of the 《种地吧》 farmboys. I think most of them are not strictly New Year's sayings. I tried to link to English explanations for each one & I tried to avoid obvious AI sites. My DuckDuckGo has AI results turned off, but I'm still not sure about some of these.

auspicious sayings (吉祥话) )
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部首
手 part 23
挠, to scratch; 挡, to block; 挣, to struggle pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.5 (part 1) 才, "only when..."
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
大巴, bus; 大多, mostly; 大方, generous; 大哥, big brother; 大规模, large-scale; 大会, general meeting; 大姐, big sister; 大楼, big building; 大陆, continent/mainland; 大妈, aunt/father's older brother's wife; 大型, large; 大爷, uncle/father's older brother; 大众, the public; 巨大, huge; 扩大, expand pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
现在在我面前没有熟人,只有仇人和挡我路的人, right now there is nobody familiar in my view, only enemies and people blocking my way
过了好几年,我才终于遇到了真命天子第二号, it took quite a few years before I finally met my second true love
你的报道误导大众, your reporting misleads the people

Me:
行了,你别挣扎了。
你去告诉大哥一下。
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部首
手 part 22
按, to press; 挑, to choose; 挖, to dig pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
打, to hit; 打败, to defeat; 打雷, to thunder; 打扫, to clean; 打折, discount; 打针, to inject pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
我建议你每一次都按时吃, I suggest you eat all your meals on time
给他打针麻药, inject him with the drug

Me:
狗狗喜欢挖坑。
今天我一定要打扫房子。
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部首
手 parts 16-21
拖, to drag; 拙, awkward; 招, to recruit; 拜, to pay respects; 拥, to hold; 拦, to block; 拧, to twist; 拨, to pluck/to dial; 择, to choose; 括, to include; 拯, to aid; 拳, fist; 拼, to put together/to spell; 拽, to drag; 拿, to take; 持, to hold; 挂, to hang; 指, to point
pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.2 Separable verbs
3.3 Question words in non-questions
3.4 一下 vs 一会儿
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
次, secondary; 多次, many times
刺, thorn; 刺激, to stimulate
从此, from then on
粗, thick/coarse/rough; 粗心, careless
促进, to promote; 促使, to urge; 促销, (sales) promotion
措施, measures
pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

玩玩
Three people named Chen, because I feel like it: Cheer Chen’s 残缺的彩虹, Chen Chusheng and friends covering the Mayday classic 倔强, and Chen Shaoxi’s风再大.

上周工作许多,我累啦。在我们这边没有新年假期,哈哈。大家过得怎么样?
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部首
手 part 21
持, to hold; 挂, to hang; 指, to point pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

语法
3.4 一下 vs 一会儿
https://www.digmandarin.com/hsk-3-grammar

词汇
措施, measures pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
一定要坚持住, you have to hold on
我一会儿给您回电话, I'll call you back shortly
我知道特调处有自己的保密措施, I know the SID has its own confidentiality measures

Me:
轻轻是最重的牵挂🎵
等一下,我查一查。
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部首
手 part 20
拼, to put together/to spell; 拽, to drag; 拿, to take pinyin )
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqrad=64

词汇
促进, to promote; 促使, to urge; 促销, (sales) promotion pinyin )
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-4-word-list/

Guardian:
虽然我没拿到资料,但是我拿到了那个东西, I didn't get the documents, but I got the thing
那里的气候条件与他们产生了奇妙的化学反应促使了这些地星人的基因同样产生了变异重组, the climatic conditions and the odd chemical reaction they produced promoted the similarly produced mutation in the Dixingren's genes

Me:
你喜欢拼图吗?
我不太相信促销的话。

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