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语法
(包括) + X + 在内, "including X"
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22including%22_with_%22zainei%22

词汇
脸, face (pinyin in tags). Refers (I think) both literally to the face on the front of your head and to "losing face" etc.
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-2-word-list/

Guardian:
[no 在内]
自从你当年离我而去,我就戴上了这个面具,就为了不想看到这张和你一模一样的脸, ever since you went off and left me I have worn this mask, because I don't want to see this face identical to yours.
一个唱红脸,一个唱白脸, good cop bad cop
你的脸上有灰,我帮你吹一吹, there's dust on your face, I was just blowing it off for you.

Me:
包括到车站走路的时间,去那里要花一个半小时。
如果我在他们面前哭起来的话,太丢脸了吧。

Date: 2023-08-03 11:49 am (UTC)
grayswandir: Shen Wei looking at Zhao Yunlan. (Guardian: Shen Wei/Zhao Yunlan)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
Interesting, so it does seem like 面子 and 脸 can be pretty much the same! And now there's 给个面子 for me to add to my list. XD

谁叫我不要脸

From what I've seen, I'm pretty sure 谁叫 is usually a rhetorical question meaning "who told [you] to..." and implying that nobody told you to do it -- you did it of your own free will, and thus the consequences are your own fault. I think 谁叫我不要脸 would be like, "Who told me to act so shameless?" as a self-rebuke (like "why did I go and act so shameless?").

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