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guardian_learningContinuing with the 能，会，可以 theme, today is 会 for being able to do something as a learned skill. Please see the two previous posts for more detail on this thanks to wonderful commenters!
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_a_learned_skill_with_%22hui%22
Guardian:
ZYL：黑老哥，还演呢。除非你会那个什么消除记忆，把我的记忆消除了。
SW：你怎么知道我不会呢？
(Zhao Yunlan: Hei lao-ge, still pretending. Unless you can erase memories, erase mine. Shen Wei: How do you know I can't? [thereby answering my question about whether Shen Wei's powers use 能 or 会...])
My practice:
我不会写汉字（我写的汉字好像小学生的）。
林楠笙会说日语。(good grief, why does my computer know the 汉子 for Lin Nansheng)
学习中文不容易，但如果继续好好努力我们会的！
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_a_learned_skill_with_%22hui%22
Guardian:
ZYL：黑老哥，还演呢。除非你会那个什么消除记忆，把我的记忆消除了。
SW：你怎么知道我不会呢？
(Zhao Yunlan: Hei lao-ge, still pretending. Unless you can erase memories, erase mine. Shen Wei: How do you know I can't? [thereby answering my question about whether Shen Wei's powers use 能 or 会...])
My practice:
我不会写汉字（我写的汉字好像小学生的）。
林楠笙会说日语。(good grief, why does my computer know the 汉子 for Lin Nansheng)
学习中文不容易，但如果继续好好努力我们会的！
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Date: 2022-01-27 12:26 am (UTC)她会编程。（programming, if the dictionary is to be believed?).
(while looking it up, I was also very amused by 'to hard-code' being 写死 -- apparently informally?)
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Date: 2022-01-27 12:42 am (UTC)Hah. XD I'm guessing (???) that this is 死 in the sense of fixed/rigid, like how 死性 is a fixed/rigid habit (死性不改, you can't change fixed habits/"old habits die hard"), and 死结 is a fast knot, and 死硬 is stiff/inflexible... which, if so it kind of makes sense... but the word order of 写死 really looks like "write (something/oneself) to death," at least to me. XD
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Date: 2022-01-27 01:19 am (UTC)*Death Note theme starts playing*
写死 is a new one on me but I can see how it came about (word order makes sense as 死 is adjective-ing here kinda like 写完 or 算错 etc). I might also colloquially say 绑死 to mean "tie a dead knot" but only because that's how I'd say it in Hokkien…
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Date: 2022-01-27 01:23 am (UTC):D
Thanks for explaining! :D
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Date: 2022-01-27 01:42 am (UTC)Oh, hey. I tried Googling this and there seem to be quite a few results, though I was having a hard time finding any with English translations. I did find a figurative usage on this (annoyingly pop-up ridden) page full of usages of 绑, though:
常用词：be bound up，被绑死住、相关连
Fiona was bound up in her own problems.
(Fiona被自己的问题给绑住)
Fiona’s problems are all bound up with her bad romances.
(Fiona的问题都和她自己的罗曼屎有关)
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Date: 2022-01-27 02:35 am (UTC)罗曼屎
笑死ing at this brb
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Date: 2022-01-27 02:55 am (UTC)Is there a... better option? I'm used to just seeing 罗曼 without any extra ending...
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Date: 2022-01-27 03:17 am (UTC)Baidu lists 罗曼史 instead but I admit this is a great swap to put the bad in bad romance lmao.
Mostly I've heard it used in the context of 罗曼蒂克 I think? The subtle art of "let's show those pesky English words who's boss" XD
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Date: 2022-01-28 12:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-01-28 02:50 am (UTC)Oh Japanese is downright polite about loanwords in comparison. 罗曼 and associated words are more slang though.
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Date: 2022-01-28 10:52 am (UTC)Reasons I need to actually learn simplified characters...
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Date: 2022-01-28 11:57 pm (UTC)Ha, I only know 罗 thanks to 罗浮生. ;) I wonder if 浪漫 was originally a back-borrowing from Japanese, in which it's actually pronounced rо̄man?
(Replying to two comments in one place to spare your inbox)
I always thought Japanese used traditional characters. Using a mix sounds like it would be even more confusing
Japanese simplified its characters on its own recognizance after the war, but not to the extreme extent that mainland China did, so the parts are mostly recognizable (never forgive 简体字 云 for 雲)，but most of the super-complex ones are reduced somewhat. I find it a nice happy medium, but I may be biased ;) To the extent that I can read traditional characters, it's due to time spent struggling with prewar Japanese texts...
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Date: 2022-01-29 01:40 am (UTC)Hah, I figured out what name this must be after looking at it for a few seconds, but hadn't seen it in Chinese characters before. Maybe I'll remember it now. :) I'd seen 羅 as a traditional character before, but only in place names (e.g. Russia, 俄羅斯/俄罗斯).
I wonder if 浪漫 was originally a back-borrowing from Japanese, in which it's actually pronounced rо̄man?
Oh, that would make sense. 浪 seems like an odd phonetic match, coming from Chinese...
I find it a nice happy medium, but I may be biased ;)
That actually sounds nice to me, too. I enjoy how much etymology is packed into the traditional characters, but some of them have so many strokes, it seems very reasonable to want to simplify them. Just, yeah -- maybe not all the way down to 云!
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Date: 2022-01-27 01:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-01-27 11:55 pm (UTC)（我不会画画，我喜欢看美术但一点都没有画画的才能。。。）
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Date: 2022-01-27 12:50 am (UTC)I'm glad you were able to answer this, as I was curious about it too. :) Going back to that article, I guess that means you could end up with a situation where (不)能 could refer to temporary loss of ability and/or regaining ability afterward. Like, if Shen Wei is injured or has used up too much power, both 会 and 不能 could simultaneously apply (he has the skill but can't physically use it right now), and once he recovers, then both 会 and 能 would apply (now he can actually do the thing he knows how to do).
I guess I'll try to come up with a sentence for that...
简体字：他会消除记忆，不过因为他受伤了，暂时不能。
繁體字：他會消除記憶，不過因為他受傷了，暫時不能。
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Date: 2022-01-27 08:32 am (UTC)That's what I was thinking too! Or discussing limits to his powers - what exactly he can do with any given power he knows.
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Date: 2022-01-28 12:04 am (UTC)I suspect this is wrong on my part, but I also feel like, because Shen Wei's specific powers are by definition learned skills, he should use 能 for his basic power and 会 for what he picked up with it--沈巍他能学习能量，然后会用学过的能量？？？。
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Date: 2022-01-28 09:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-01-29 01:49 am (UTC)Minor correction on vocab – 能量 is for energy! Both IRL and in-series 黑能量.
Generally I'd use 能力 for abilities (so same as Japanese) and maybe 超能 for superpowers. 异能 is the specific term used for Dixing abilities, with convenient emphasis on their Alien Origins™…
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Date: 2022-01-28 12:02 am (UTC)Yes, that makes good sense to me! To play off your version, in the kitchen scene, 他一般会治伤，但现在因为太累了不能的。(Only, you know, with better grammar.)
(谢谢你写繁体字！ Coming from Japanese to Chinese it's such a weird mix--Japanese has 体 and 会, for instance, but also 記,憶，過,為,傷. Never get used to it.)
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Date: 2022-01-28 10:56 am (UTC)Oh, I never realized that! I always thought Japanese used traditional characters. Using a mix sounds like it would be even more confusing (on top of having to learn multiple reading/writing systems, which already seems complicated enough!).