第九十五天

[nnozomi]

语法
最 + adjective for the superlative (a nice straightforward one, is this review? oh well.)
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Superlative_%22zui%22

词汇
等, wait (pinyin in tags)
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-1-word-list/

Guardian:
等等，把这个拿走. Wait, take this with you.
赵云澜，虽然我们认识的时间不长，可我已经把你当成我最好的朋友了. Zhao Yunlan, we have not known each other very long, but I already consider you my best friend.
这是我奶奶最喜欢的菜, this is my grandmother's favorite food.

My practice:
你已经等了他两个小时了吧，最好放弃了他。
他是最了解我的人。

Comments

[grayswandir]

Now that I'm looking into it, you're right, they look exactly identical in most fonts, which I'd never actually realized! I don't think it's a simplified/traditional thing -- I think most fonts just aren't bothering to differentiate them? Here's a comparison in DFKai font, which does distinguish:



Wiktionary says "These may be written identically as 月, but in careful use they are distinguished, with the inside of ⺼ being written with unattached diagonal strokes." I think I learned to write it that way when I first practiced radicals on Skritter, and just assumed it was always supposed to look like that -- I thought the diagonal lines just looked straight in small font sizes! (Another thing learned today! XD)

[trobadora]

Oh, huh, that's fascinating (again!). Wikipedia says "When used as a left component, the radical character transforms into 月 in Simplified Chinese and Japanese or ⺼ in modern Traditional Chinese used in Hong Kong and Taiwan" ...

[grayswandir]

Huh! Maybe it is different in simplified vs. traditional, then. Wiktionary seems to prioritize traditional script, so maybe whoever wrote the section I quoted wasn't taking into account (or just didn't bother to mention) that "in careful use they are distinguished" may only apply in places that use traditional characters...

(I'm glad I'm not the only one who's fascinated by all this! :D )

[nnozomi]

I'm pretty sure I was taught with regard to Japanese that there was no visible/writable difference between 月 月 and 肉 月 as radicals, just that the actual derivation was different and that's why all the internal organs had moons on them. So yeah, it may be a traditional-only thing.

(Tangentially, it reminds me of manufacturers' frequent tendency to typo 内蔵, built in, as
内臓, internal organs--the difference is just the 月. Unintentional anthropomorphizing?)

[grayswandir]

Unintentional anthropomorphizing?

Hah, I can see how those would be easily confused!

(On a side note, huh, somehow I don't think I'd ever made the connection before that 臓 is just 蔵 + 肉/月. That is a rather straightforward etymology! For some reason I've never had any trouble recognizing 臓, but I think realizing they're the same may help me remember 蔵 better...)

[nnozomi]

For some reason I've never had any trouble recognizing 臓, but I think realizing they're the same may help me remember 蔵 better...
Glad to be of use! In Japanese 蔵 and 臓 are actually pronounced the same too, so they're easier to associate (and easier to get wrong).

[grayswandir]

Actually, they can be pronounced the same in Chinese, too -- as a noun (meaning "storehouse"), 藏 is pronounced zàng, the same as 臟.

Oh, hah... I just checked Wiktionary to get the pinyin, and under the noun form of 藏 (zàng) it actually says "Original form of 臟／脏 (zàng, “internal organs”)." So I guess technically you could say "內藏=organs" is archaic rather than wrong. XD

[nnozomi]

Actually, they can be pronounced the same in Chinese, too -- as a noun (meaning "storehouse"), 藏 is pronounced zàng, the same as 臟.
Oh that's good to know! (Chinese, you already have tones, PLEASE pronounce your characters just one way.)

So I guess technically you could say "內藏=organs" is archaic rather than wrong. XD
哈哈哈 :)

[presumenothing]

Oh hey this is literally the first time I'm seeing either character with anything but 月, so +1 on it probably being a traditional-only difference?

[grayswandir]

This just keeps getting more confusing. XD I was doing flashcards last night and one of the simplified character cards that came up was for 胜/勝, and on the card it clearly showed ONLY the simplified version with the angled strokes for 肉, and straight lines like 月 in the traditional character. Whaaaat.

I ended up opening Word and trying them both in a few fonts, with these results:



On checking Wiktionary, it turns out apparently the simplified and traditional versions actually have completely different radicals (simplified: radical is 肉; traditional: lefthand component is 月, radical is 刀...), so that explains why the lines are straight for the traditional ones in this case. But if angled lines for 肉 is a traditional thing, why do some of these fonts use angled lines for 胜 which is a simplified character??? >_>

(And, typing this comment has made me realize why I always thought they were written differently! That's apparently how my computer's default Chinese font always shows them. For me, "胜" -- the simplified character! -- shows on my screen with angled strokes, not straight.)

*flails*