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(不好意思迟到了,我睡了懒觉)

语法
不用 + verb, "don't need to X"
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Expressing_%22don%27t_need_to%22_with_%22buyong%22

词汇
必须, must 必须 bìxū, must
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-2-word-list/

Introductory grammar day 145

Guardian:
像我们这些大学老师上班又不用打卡, university professors like us don't need to punch a timecard when we go to work
您不用和我抱歉, you don't need to apologize to me
可是这一步我必须自己去走, but this step I must take by myself [yup, this is Shen Wei talking, not Wu Xie]

Me:
我不用你给我带包,我能自己来。
不行,已经九点了,我必须准备好。

Date: 2023-01-04 04:55 am (UTC)
sakana17: wu xie with his eyes closed (dmbj-wuxie4)
From: [personal profile] sakana17
Lost Tomb Reboot, episode 23:
那你不用再调查这件事情了

The Rebel, episode 38:
这件事,你必须得帮我

Date: 2023-01-05 12:37 am (UTC)
sakana17: luo fusheng is not sure (luo-fusheng-ehhh)
From: [personal profile] sakana17
This one confuses me because of the doubled 必须 + 得

I also wasn't sure what to make of the 得 in there. In context, it might be emphasis? Unless emphasis isn't one of the 9 million uses of 得...

Date: 2023-01-04 12:49 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei - right hand 右)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
须 is one of those characters that do not want to stick. I know the word, but every time I see the character I go "???". *sigh*

Date: 2023-01-04 01:11 pm (UTC)
grayswandir: Andy Lau looking confused, with a question mark (Andy Lau: what)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
I'm with you on this one. I did manage to remember what it was without looking it up, but only because the translation was right there and, like you, I do know the word -- by sound. I'm always forgetting the character, though. (I see Mandarin and Cantonese both pronounce 需 and 须 the same, which I know is part of the problem for me...)

(And this is going to just be me, but I also get confused about 必 because in Canto it's pronounced the same as 别 except with a different tone. High tone: "Must!" Low tone: "Don't!" Oy...)

Date: 2023-01-04 01:23 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei - right hand 右)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
I see Mandarin and Cantonese both pronounce 需 and 须 the same, which I know is part of the problem for me...

That definitely doesn't help! But I wish I understood why my brain just sometimes is like, "this character you've seen dozens of times? nope, never seen it in my life!"

High tone: "Must!" Low tone: "Don't!" Oy...

Oh no, that is just evil! So glad Mandarin at least doesn't do that ...

Date: 2023-01-04 01:30 pm (UTC)
grayswandir: Andy Lau looking confused, with a question mark (Andy Lau: what)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
Yeah, some of them just seem less intuitive or less memorable, somehow.

Oh no, that is just evil! So glad Mandarin at least doesn't do that ...

They're both kind of literary/formal in Canto anyway, so I don't have to worry about it too much... but that also means I don't get reminded of which is which all that often, either. XD

Date: 2023-01-05 12:42 am (UTC)
sakana17: bai yu holding an umbrella and looking up (bai-yu-umbrella)
From: [personal profile] sakana17
this character you've seen dozens of times? nope, never seen it in my life!

I feel this so much. (Looking at you, 种, which has shown up in probably everything I've transcribed.) :(

Date: 2023-01-05 12:48 am (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei - right hand 右)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
Oh, yeah, 种, I just had to look it up again, WTF brain.

Date: 2023-01-04 07:22 pm (UTC)
elenothar: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elenothar
这还用说吗? seems a good one to know

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