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语法
比起 + N (+ 来), "compared to X..." (top of page)
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Comparisons_with_%22biqi%22

词汇
难过, sorry/upset; 难看, ugly; 难受, uncomfortable; 难题, difficult problem; 难听, unpleasant to hear 难过 nánguò, sorry/upset; 难看 nánkàn, ugly; 难受 nánshòu, uncomfortable; 难题 nántí, difficult problem; 难听 nántīng, unpleasant to hear
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-2-word-list/

Guardian:
可比起你这九十九重人格更不合理吧, it's more irrational even than your 99-fold personality
这里的情况比起龙城更惨啊, the state of affairs here is even worse than in Dragon City
你做梦的时候看起来样子很难受, you looked upset when you were dreaming

Me:
比起摇滚音乐来,我更喜欢听古典音乐。
这真的是难题,我一个人来不了。

Date: 2023-08-26 01:01 am (UTC)
cathyw: Gromit pouring tea (Default)
From: [personal profile] cathyw
so essentially 难 is the opposite of 好 in the (adverb + verb = adjective) construct?
好看 -> attractive, 难看, ugly
好听 -> pleasant to hear, 难听, unpleasant to hear
can we then infer
好吃 or 好喝-> tasty, 难吃 or 难喝 unpleasant-tasting?

(I can, should, and did ask a dictionary and yes, yes we can infer that, there seem to be many cases of this usage.)

Date: 2023-08-26 01:11 am (UTC)
grayswandir: Zhao Yunlan, pensive, lying face-up on a bed. (Guardian: Zhao Yunlan)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
Yep, plus there are also some adjectives where the 难 keeps the literal meaning of "difficult"! e.g. 难免 (hard to avoid), 难说 (it's hard to say/you can never tell), 难忘 (unforgettable).

Date: 2023-08-26 01:12 am (UTC)
cathyw: Gromit pouring tea (Default)
From: [personal profile] cathyw
although I did a little more digging through the dictionary and found that it's not universal - lots of 难+verb adjectives that don't have a corresponding 好+verb and vice versa.

Date: 2023-08-26 05:02 am (UTC)
grayswandir: Zhao Yunlan, pensive, lying face-up on a bed. (Guardian: Zhao Yunlan)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
Oh, yeah, that's a good point. I knew there wasn't a 好+verb equivalent for every 难+verb, but I hadn't thought about the reverse. Useful to know you can't necessarily count on those forms existing, either.

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