第一百四十三天

[nnozomi]

语法
要 + noun for "want something". (Why are all the 要 meanings on one page when 了 is so spread out? First quarter of the page today, anyway)
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Auxiliary_verb_%22yao%22_and_its_multiple_meanings

词汇
喝, to drink, a nice straightforward verb (pinyin in tags)
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-1-word-list/

Guardian:
你不知道，他们要的是我 you don't understand, it's me they want
沈老师，外面太阳大，喝口水吧 Professor Shen, it's so sunny out, have some water
你什么时候开始喝... since when do you drink?
(Interestingly, Shen Wei uses 喝 with 粥, congee, which I would have thought of as 吃. I guess it's soup in his mind? 药, medicine, seems to go with both 吃 (for pills) and 喝 (for medicinal tea etc.).)

Me:
我真要巧克力，但是会坚持。
你喝不喝热茶？

Comments

[presumenothing]

because I know in Cantonese you definitely eat congee

Was waiting to see if you'd say this because I had the vague impression this was the case, and anyway I'm half-convinced this is also because 粥 itself is literally different per region?? I have a hard time imagining saying 喝 about HK-style congee – in my head it only applies to maybe seriously watery types like Teochew porridge, but since that's usually eaten with side dishes anyway…

…yes, this is to say I'm firmly in the 吃 camp, standard-correct or not, and 吃粥 / 喝汤 is what I learned for Hokkien too!

[grayswandir]

I'm half-convinced this is also because 粥 itself is literally different per region??

Ah, I hadn't even thought of that. Yeah, I can imagine that if in some regions it's more watery and soup-like, by analogy it would make sense to use 喝 there.

I'm firmly in the 吃 camp, standard-correct or not, and 吃粥 / 喝汤 is what I learned for Hokkien too!

That does make the foreign-influence theory seem less likely! I'd be surprised if Hokkien, Cantonese, and Mandarin all brought in 吃粥 from outside...

[nnozomi]

I asked a friend in Taiwan for her opinion, and just made everything more complicated: 喝粥，吃稀饭, she said. Even though most places say 粥 and 稀饭 are the same thing... (they even have the same emoji lol 🥣🥣). She said: "粥应该比较像很浓的米汤，所以喝的。稀饭比较像是煮得很软很软的饭，所以我们说吃稀饭," and added “不过粥和稀饭，用吃或食用喝的，都应该没关系," so I give up. If you chew it it's 吃 and if not it's 喝, apparently? *facepalm*

[grayswandir]

Oh no. XD

I'd never heard of 稀饭 before. Maybe whether or not you distinguish between 粥 and 稀饭 as different consistencies is also regional?

[nnozomi]

Maybe so? 稀饭 was new to me likewise, oh dear. All in all I think if I'm ever in the relevant context I will give up on the whole thing and just order 面！

[trobadora]

I will cling to that "都应该没关系" ...

[nnozomi]

I will cling to that "都应该没关系" ...
I KNOW. Frustrating in the "but what's the right answer?!" sense, but reassuring likewise...