第三年第三十二天

[nnozomi]

（不好意思，评论回复以后，太没空）

语法
至于 "that much" (bottom of page)
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Comparing_%22duiyu%22_and_%22zhiyu%22

词汇
亿, billion [but I'm pretty sure it's actually a hundred million????] (pinyin in tags)
https://mandarinbean.com/new-hsk-2-word-list/

Guardian:
不至于引起那么多人的觊觎, it's not enough for so many people to get their hopes up
就算是感情再不好，也不至于这么冷冰冰, even if she's not happy about it, she doesn't have to be that cold
从概率上来判断千万亿次才会发现一次这样的情况, in terms of probability this is a one-in-a-hundred-billion situation

Me:
不至于你那么生气吧。
在天空有多少星星，一亿多吗？

Comments

[profiterole_reads]

but I'm pretty sure it's actually a hundred million

Yes, that sounds way more likely. And don't you love it when you've got to do mental arithmetic every time there's a big number, like [a hundred][ten thousand]... *brain calculating*... that's a million!

[trobadora]

亿, billion [but I'm pretty sure it's actually a hundred million????]

Huh. The dictionary definitely says it's a hundred million, which is neither of the definitions of a billion!

[grayswandir]

Oh, weird. Yeah, all the dictionaries I've got on Pleco also say a hundred million (or, in archaic usage, a hundred thousand). Ditto Wiktionary. Maybe someone was just confused about what a billion means?

[trobadora]

That would be hilarious if so!

[donutsweeper]

I think this is one of the first times there was a page where they set out to compare the differences between two similar phrases/words and explain how to use them that I actually understood it easily.

[nnozomi]

Some of them make good sense to me and some I feel depend on kind of having a feeling for the usage which is hard to get...

[nnozomi]

And don't you love it when you've got to do mental arithmetic every time there's a big number, like [a hundred][ten thousand]... *brain calculating*... that's a million!
Yup! I'm still slow with numbers in Japanese (they work the same way as Chinese), why are the terms so different...

[nnozomi]

Maybe someone was just confused about what a billion means?
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised, lol...

[profiterole_reads]

Yeah, same in Korean. Except that for small numbers, there are 2 sets of numbers, each with a specific use.

[nnozomi]

Except that for small numbers, there are 2 sets of numbers, each with a specific use.
yup, same in Japanese.

[profiterole_reads]

I don't think it's parallel with Japanese.

In Korean, both sets of numbers can be used with counters, just not the same counters. For instance, you use Native Korean numbers for hours, but Sino-Korean numbers for minutes and seconds.

[grayswandir]

In Korean, both sets of numbers can be used with counters, just not the same counters. For instance, you use Native Korean numbers for hours, but Sino-Korean numbers for minutes and seconds.

Oh, wow. I have enough trouble with numbers as it is. That sounds nuts. o_O

[profiterole_reads]

A little bit, yes, but my main trouble is to remember how to say 20, 30... and 90 in Native Korean numbers, since I don't use them often. In Sino-Korean numbers, it's of course [2][10], [3][10]... and [9][10] like in Chinese and in Japanese, so it's way easier.

[nnozomi]

No, you're right that it's not exactly parallel with Japanese in terms of specific usages, but both languages have a native counting form and a Sino- counting form, which are sometimes used in unpredictable ways... oh dear ;)