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Don't ~~~, with 别
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Negative_commands_with_%22bie%22

like 不要 only more so, I guess...

Guardian:
你别这样, don't be this way
别急,咱们先听个故事, don't worry, let's hear the story
别信网上的好些八卦消息, don't trust gossip on the Internet (oh dear)

My practice:
你别吃我的蛋糕,也有为你的部分,你吃你的
别骗我,我知道是你把邮件发送了

Also a question: as regards the Chinese Grammar Wiki pages, we seem to have just about covered the (old) HSK1 and A1 levels and to be moving on to the A2 stuff. Continue moving through the grammar points? Go back and repeat some of the points covered so far? Take a break from grammar points per se and do a general vocabulary word a day for a while? Something else? If you have an opinion/preference/idea, let me know!

Date: 2022-03-10 10:57 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Shen Wei - don't know)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
I'm enjoying the grammar points, and they're more helpful to me than vocabulary, so I vote for continuing!

Date: 2022-03-10 11:00 pm (UTC)
shadaras: A phoenix with wings fully outspread, holidng a rose and an arrow in its talons. (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadaras
I like the idea of doing vocab words for a while! Or at least intermixing vocab with grammar/other things. :)

I'd be more confident attempting to formulate sentences with vocab words and extremely basic grammar that I might get wrong (but that's okay if the point is single word use instead of grammar features) than trying to figure out some of these more complicated grammatical structures. (Which is a lot of why I mostly just lurk and read except on the "just share something fun!" posts.)

Date: 2022-03-10 11:10 pm (UTC)
grayswandir: Wu Xie in the dark (Lost Tomb Reboot: Wu Xie)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
Any of the above would be fine by me! :) Since it sounds like both grammar and vocab might be useful to different people, maybe a mix?

Date: 2022-03-11 04:49 am (UTC)
sakana17: lin nansheng in a car (rebel-lin-nansheng-car)
From: [personal profile] sakana17
From The Rebel, ep. 38: 千万别打死了 (eeek) and from the same scene: 别胡来

I like the suggestion to mix vocabulary and grammar posts, but I'm fine with whatever!

I'm having fun trying to find examples from The Rebel by choosing random (more or less) episodes. It's been interesting to see which grammar points/words I can't find in The Rebel. Like age! They don't talk much about anyone's age. And all the 真 I've found so far are 真的 or 真是 or part of a compound.

Date: 2022-03-11 04:54 am (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
I would not mind mixing things up a bit! I also wouldn't mind some review from time to time either, even if it was just a quick end of the week (or two weeks, or month) rundown of "here's what we covered in case you missed anything" type of thing.


别说话!我要运神!

Date: 2022-03-11 04:58 am (UTC)
sakana17: shen wei's doe eyes (guardian-shenwei-doeeyes)
From: [personal profile] sakana17
rundown of "here's what we covered in case you missed anything" type of thing

+1 to this!

Date: 2022-03-11 07:29 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (Default)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing
Some vocab would be a fun change (I say, but purely from an eating-popcorn-on-the-sidelines perspective, so 甭*管我的意见)

*(wordmash slang for 不用, to pre-empt the obvious(?) question)

Date: 2022-03-11 03:59 pm (UTC)
grayswandir: The Black-Cloaked Envoy in his mask. (Guardian: Black-Cloaked Envoy)
From: [personal profile] grayswandir
wordmash slang for 不用

Oh, cool. The character should be easy to remember!

Date: 2022-03-11 06:21 pm (UTC)
elenothar: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elenothar
Mixing it up a bit sounds like a good idea to me, though I don't really mind either way. Since I'm doing vocab either way, the grammar points are probably more helpful, but as long we don't give up on doing those entirely, vocab also wouldn't hurt.

Thirding the above opinion that the occasional masterpost (maybe monthly? I do recognise that it'd be a fair bit of work for you to add that) might be useful for easier searching. I've already gone through the posts several times looking for specific ones...

Date: 2022-03-11 11:20 pm (UTC)
shadaras: A phoenix with wings fully outspread, holidng a rose and an arrow in its talons. (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadaras
Yes, but when you give sample sentences that are complicated, there's this internal pressure that there's some expectation of that! :D

...this could also be solved by showing a relatively simple example of grammar in the post, I guess. xD

Date: 2022-03-12 12:01 am (UTC)
cortue: sunlight showing through trees (Default)
From: [personal profile] cortue
I've been following awhile but never get around to commenting - I appreciate the daily posts a lot! Thanks for making them. I would be happy with either grammar or vocab. Mainly I've been trying to push myself to use the vocab I'm meant to be memorizing in a different way than flash cards, which can get really boring.

我刚才开始新的实验;别动这个烧杯!

Date: 2022-03-12 02:02 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (Default)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing

胡来 is new to me, that's a good one to know!

On a similar vein, there's also 胡闹, 胡说 etc…

Date: 2022-03-12 05:18 am (UTC)
yaaurens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaaurens
and thanks for 运神 which is new to me!
I just dictionary'd it, so I have no idea if I used it correctly, haha!

Date: 2022-03-12 07:03 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (beret)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing

Fancy seeing you here! ;D

Date: 2022-03-12 07:04 am (UTC)
presumenothing: (Default)
From: [personal profile] presumenothing

The character should be easy to remember!

(for once XD)

Date: 2022-03-13 02:02 am (UTC)
cortue: sunlight showing through trees (Default)
From: [personal profile] cortue
:D hopefully more often!

Date: 2022-03-15 04:05 am (UTC)
cortue: sunlight showing through trees (Default)
From: [personal profile] cortue
没事儿,我明白你的意思。 我是科学家所以我词汇是一部分科学的,一部分从我中文课本的。:D

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